Subject: TeXhax Digest V89 #103 From: TeXhax Digest Errors-To: TeXhax-request@cs.washington.edu Maint-Path: TeXhax-request@cs.washington.edu To: TeXhax-Distribution-List:; Reply-To: TeXhax@cs.washington.edu TeXhax Digest Wednesday, November 22, 1989 Volume 89 : Issue 103 Moderators: Tiina Modisett and Pierre MacKay %%% The TeXhax digest is brought to you as a service of the TeX Users Group %%% %%% in cooperation with the UnixTeX distribution service at the %%% %%% University of Washington %%% Today's Topics: *** Normal `Where am I?' service has been resumed at Aston *** Content of messages in TeXhax Query about picmode Problem with ln03dvi A DVI tool suggestion VAXstation2000 previewer Dvi previewer for Microsoft Windows RE: TeXhax Digest V89 #100 (Spell checkers for TeX) Re: TeX 3.0: What now? Getting VMS executables through FTP Re: Explanation of cmbx10.???pk required TEX to Postscript software Re: TeX 3 and multiligual fonts Re: secret.sty? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 NOV 89 19:07:56 GMT From: RMCS_TEX%kirk.vax.aston.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK Subject: *** Normal `Where am I?' service has been resumed at Aston *** Keywords: Aston My apologies to anyone who has tried to make use of the `where am I?' facility at UK.AC.ASTON.KIRK over the past week. On November 2nd, I made a small (I thought) modification so that it would accept the subject either with or without a question mark: in so doing, I introduced an error (typo) which has prevented the service from running. I thought it strange that no-one was appearing to use the service! Especial apologies to those individuals who managed to get their messages through to me, to whom I replied saying in effect ``don't you KNOW how to write a subject line''. Anyway, it's all working again now, so please try again. I'm especially interested in seeing some attempts from those on uucp whose return address will require one or more `!' marks, because there was a bug in replying to those addresses, and I'd be interested to know if I've fixed it. Brian {Hamilton Kelly} (p.p. Aston Archivists) P.S. For those who haven't heard of this service before, mail a message to , with the subject line `Where am I' (with or without a terminal `?', and without any other characters before the `where' nor after the `I' or `I?'. The server will then reply with your mail address, as seen by Aston, in the form which should be used when requesting that items or information should be mailed to you from the Aston Archive. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Nov 89 11:02:27 EST From: fritzz@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu Subject: Content of messages in TeXhax Keywords: suggestion I have some suggestions about messages to TeXhax: There had been several questions about " ... where can I find program XYZ for my system ..." and several answers " ... you can ftp from host xyz.xyz.xyz.xyz ..." It would be very helpful for other people if 1) The question would tell what kind of program XYZ is (may be other people are looking for a similar program but don't know that it exists. 2) Not verybody has a name server and it would be nice to get not only the hostname but also the internet number. Hope that can improve TeXhax. Fritz Zaucker P.S.: The last sentence means that also a good thing can be improved. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 NOV 89 15:00 N From: FISICA%ASTRPD.INFN.IT%ICINECA2.BITNET@UWAVM.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU Subject: Query about picmode Keywords: picmode Is there anybody who knows if the program 'PICMODE' by Flavio Rose has been implemented to allow also drawing of circles? Max Calvani span: 39003::fisica bitnet: fisica%astrpd.infn.it@icineca2 calvani@itssissa --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1989 14:09:47 MET From: Harald Hanche-Olsen Subject: Problem with ln03dvi Keywords: driver, ln03dvi We have compiled the ln03dvi driver found on the latest Unix TeX tape (2.991). When run on a perfectly legitimate DVI file, however, we get the following output: Bad DVI file - check it with DVItype Ln03DVI V1.2-017 [This is the result of redirecting stdout to a file. Curiously, the two lines come out in the opposite order when stdout is a tty]. Now, before wasting a lot of time on a debugging effort, I would like to know if others have seen this problem and if so, if they managed to fix it? I'd also appreciate hearing about successes. If no one else has the problem, I must start looking for an OS dependent bug... This happened on an Apollo running SR10.1 and the bsd4.3 environment. - Harald Hanche-Olsen The Norwegian Institute of Technology --------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Nov 89 00:04:26 EST From: Anthony Scian Subject: A DVI tool suggestion Keywords: dviware I would like to have a DVI tool that extracted all words that were hyphenated so that I could double-check TeX's decisions. e.g., printed something like "soft%ware" (or "child-%-like for words that were split at a hyphen) The hyphenation algorithm cannot be perfect so a tool like this would be a useful addition to the TeX distribution. A simple output with one hyphenation per line would be fine. Is this possible to do with the information in a DVI file? If not, can TeX be coerced into writing the hyphenated words into a file as they are output? No, how about V3.0 providing hooks into the hyphenating process so that this could be done? Anthony afscian@violet.uwaterloo.ca afscian@violet.waterloo.edu watmath!violet!afscian ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 7 Nov 89 09:31:30 -0600 From: Rohit Gupta Subject: VAXstation2000 previewer Keywords: VAXstation2000 previewer I'm just learning TeX - so I apologize if this has been asked before. Is there a PD TeX previewer available for our VAXstation2000 running X11.3? Thanks, Rohit ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Nov 89 09:46:30 -0600 From: "J.D. McDonald " Subject: Dvi previewer for Microsoft Windows Keywords: dviware, Microsoft Windows Several people have tried using my new .dvi file for Microsoft Windows, dvimswin. Since nobody except me has found any bugs, I am now announcing it for general use. It can be obtained by anonymous ftp from c.scs.uiuc.edu. It is in the default anonymous ftp directory. You will have to use the font files from my older dvivga, or get them by anonymous ftp from wsmr-simtel20.army.mil (directory pd1:). (The font files are dvivga2 through 9). This is a full featured Windows previewer with zooming, panning in both directions, and operation using either keyboard or mouse. This previewer will display at an actual 300 dots per inch if you have such a display for Windows. I would like to hear from someone who has one of these things, which apparently exist. At this time I am not prepared to send this to people without ftp capability. In the future it will get put on simtel20 and various Bitnet servers. But not until a few more people try it. Doug McDonald (mcdonald@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Nov 89 07:28 EST From: "KIM A. TAN" Subject: RE: TeXhax Digest V89 #100 (Spell checkers for TeX) Keywords: TeX, spell checkers >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 89 10:54:44 EST >From: jrv@sdimax2.mitre.org >Subject: Spell checkers for TeX >Keywords: spell checker, TeX > >> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 89 14:53 EDT >> From: "Dwaine L. VanBibber" >> Subject: Spell checkers for TeX >> Keywords: spell check, TeX >> >> Does anyone know of a shareware spell checker for use with TeX that runs on >> IBM PCs? > >Dwaine: > >You might check out this file at wsmr-simtel20.army.mil... > >PD1:UNRETEX.ARC Prepare TeX files for spelling chk processing Hi Jim and Dwaine! By the way, UNreTeX is *not* a spell checker program. It is just *un*TeXing your TeX file for the use of external spell checker. Then *re*TeX it. I am looking for a *good* shareware spell checker myself too. Any suggestion where I may find one?!? :-) Thank you in advance. --Kim --------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Nov 89 16:13:13 EST From: smithda@cpsvax.cps.msu.edu (J. Daniel Smith) Subject: Re: TeX 3.0: What now? Keywords: TeX >Now that DEK has decided to enhance TeX to handle 8-bit character >sets, the question arises how to choose the characters to add to >potential 256-character "National Language Computer Modern" text >fonts, and where to place them. >[..] >Here are some suggestions: > I have one more suggestion: Many people are using (for better or worse) PostScript printers as their TeX output device. These printers have the advantage (or disadvantage) of containing several resident PostScript fonts. Unfortunally, several of the special characters and accents are in differnt location from those in the Computer Modern scheme. This makes life difficult for those who write device drivers, and for those who want to use the resident PostScript fonts. If I remember correctly, the PostScript coding scheme is based on a standard something like ISO Latin 1. If the computer modern fonts are going to be extended in any way, I think is only makes sense that they be extended towards a standard. Using ISO Latin 1 has the added advantage of making life easier for the many people who use PostScript with TeX. There are several empty slots in the ISO standard that could be used for the CM characters that are not found in the ISO standard (like greek letters, etc.). Most of these special characters are accessed via control sequences defined in plain.tex, so putting them at different locations should not create too many problems. And, as was already mentioned, the common accented characters would be treated as a "real" character, and not as a letter with an accent. J. Daniel Smith Internet: smithda@cpsvax.cps.msu.edu Michigan State University BITNET: smithdan@msuegr Usenet: uunet!frith!smithda Yea, from the table of my memory, I'll wipe away all trivial fond records. - William Schakespeare, Hamlet --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 08 Nov 89 11:18:27 EST From: David Ascher Subject: Getting VMS executables through FTP Keywords: VMS, FTP Hi. I'm trying to find a way to obtain VMS executables of recent versions of TeX (we're running 1.3) through ftp and/or decnet copy. I know about the DECUS tape, but would rather try to copy it over the net (or part of it) than pay the $130. If you are on DECNET (and somehow read this), or have a VMS executable on an ftp site, please contact me. Thank you. David Ascher Brown University High Energy Physics Group st501649@brownvm.brown.edu st501649@brownvm.bitnet ..!brunix!cs123070 BRHEP1::ASCHER ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Nov 89 02:40:06 -0500 From: chris@cs.UMD.EDU (Chris Torek) Subject: Re: Explanation of cmbx10.???pk required Keywords: fonts, PK, GF In TeXhax Digest V89 #101 Udaya Bhaskar Vemulapati asks for an explanation of the magnifications found in PK and GF fonts. A reasonable approximation of such an explanation can be found in the documentation in the beta release of MC-TeX. What follows is an extract. Fonts come in various magnifications, normally denoted as {\em magsteps}. Each magstep corresponds to a power of 1.2. For instance, \verb|\magstep4| is $1.2^4$, or $2.0736$. These numbers are rounded to the nearest $.001$, so that this becomes $2.074$. Font files are named according to this magnification multiplied by the number of dots per inch for that font.\footnote {For \pxl\ files, the number is then multiplied by 5, for reason which are neither good nor worth explaining.} For instance, the \gf\ file for Computer Modern Roman, ten point, at \verb|\magstep4| on a 300 dpi printer, when both the \dvi\ file and user magnifications are 1000, is called \verb|cmr10.622gf|. The $622$ comes from the formula $300 \cdot 2.074 \cdot 1000/1000 \cdot 1000/1000 = 622.2$. In the course of all this arithmetic, the computer has a tendency to get the last digit wrong. The slop factor is used to correct for this. Incidentally, due to the number of bugs in the PostScript driver, a second beta release is imminent (I went so far as to make it up the distribution, but just received another bug report---apparently box fonts get over-magnified---so what is there at the moment is already out of date again). For those who are using the MC-TeX PostScript driver, let it be known that PostScript fonts do not work. The second beta release (which is still missing texx and texsun) will fix this. If you picked up `mctex.beta2.tar.Z' while it was out, you can use it if you do not mind the box font size bug. (There are also a few more typos in the documentation that will be fixed when I officially announce the second beta release. [I.e., this is an unofficial `RSN' announcement. :-) ]) In-Real-Life: Chris Torek, Univ of MD Comp Sci Dept (+1 301 454 7163) Domain: chris@cs.umd.edu Path: uunet!mimsy!chris -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu 9 Nov 89 12:33:39-PST From: "Sridhar" Subject: TEX to Postscript software Keywords: PostScript, TeX Hi Is any body aware of existing software which converts a TEX document into a POSTSCRIPT output. I am trying to create a postscript document without creating a new formatter. If so, how could one access it. Thanks SJ Internet Address: juvvadi@intellicorp.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Nov 89 12:02 From: Wujastyk (on GEC 4190 Rim-E at UCL) Subject: Re: TeX 3 and multiligual fonts Keywords: TeX 3, fonts Tor Lillqvist has suggested that with TeX 3 coming soon, we should start thinking about extending the CM fonts to 256 characters. NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! Pardon the vehemence. The fit has now passed, thank you, and I feel much better. Let me explain. TeX has *always* been able to read fonts of 256 characters. I use one such font (Velthuis's Devanagari) every day. Levy's Greek is another example. No problem at all. The change in TeX 3 does not concern fonts, but *character input*. In other words, look at the TeXbook appendix C, not appendix F. Now I can send characters in the range 128-256 from my keyboard to TeX, and TeX will know what to do with them. This is a completely different issue from that of fonts. I am all for the creation of more fonts. Don't get me wrong. By all means, Tor, fire up Metafont and do a nice multilingual font. Many people will be extremely grateful to you. But *don't* call it CM! CM is what it is. Basta! (Unless Don decides to extend it himself, of course.) The second point you make, about language assignments, is a good one. But rather than argue about it, why not simply use the international country codes that are already in widespread use? For example, the telephone system uses them. So does DOS, when you use the "country" command in your system configuration file. They are internationally agreed, and would serve well, I would have thought. I'm afraid Sweden comes out as 46, instead of 1. Britain is 44, so we are clearly ahead of you as a nation :-) Dominik ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Nov 89 10:08:44 CST From: William LeFebvre Subject: Re: secret.sty? Keywords: LaTeX, style file, srcret.sty I have not heard of such a style or style option. I have checked the central Internet repository for latex styles, sun.soe.clarkson.edu, and I can find nothing there that fits your description. I will forward a copy of this message to all the helpers, but I think that a question of this nature would be best sent to texhax. If you would like more information on the clarkson latex style repository, let me know and I will send that information to you. William LeFebvre Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Northwestern University %-----Original message: Date: Tue, 7 Nov 89 15:37:53 -0600 From: James TenCate Does anyone out there have an option file for report.sty (call it secret.sty?) which does the following (for use in LaTeXing classified reports): (1) all paragraphs must begin with a (U), (C), or (S) which denotes unclassified, confidential, and secret, respectively. (2) if a paragraph continues on the next page, the (U), (C), and (S) has to be inserted into the first line of the continuing paragraph on the next page. % ------------------------------------------------------- Example: (U) This is text. This is text. This is text. This is text. This is text. This is text. This is text. This is text. This is text. This is text. This is text. (S) This is more text. This is more text. This is more text. This is more text. This is more text. This is more text. This is more text. This is more text. This is more text. This is more text. This is more text. (C) This text will continue on another page. This text will continue on another page. This text will continue on another page. This text will continue on another page. This text will continue on another page. This text will continue on another (next page) (C) page. This text will continue on another page. This text will continue on another page. This text will continue on another page. This text will continue on another page. % ------------------------------------------------------- Obviously, the second requirement is the tricky one. Any ideas or people to contact would be greatly appreciated. We've already tried a few times and never got it quite right (there are no real wizards here). Jim TenCate jatc@emx.utexas.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- %%% Further information about the TeXhax Digest, the TeX %%% Users Group, and the latest software versions is available %%% in every tenth issue of the TeXhax Digest. %%% %%% Concerning subscriptions, address changes, unsubscribing: %%% %%% BITNET: send a one-line mail message to LISTSERV@xxx %%% SUBSCRIBE TEX-L % to subscribe %%% or UNSUBSCRIBE TEX-L %%% %%% Internet: send a similar one line mail message to %%% TeXhax-request@cs.washington.edu %%% JANET users may choose to use %%% texhax-request@uk.ac.nsf %%% All submissions to: TeXhax@cs.washington.edu %%% %%% Back issues available for FTPing as: %%% machine: directory: filename: %%% JUNE.CS.WASHINGTON.EDU TeXhax/TeXhaxyy.nn %%% yy = last two digits of current year %%% nn = issue number %%% %%%\bye %%% End of TeXhax Digest ************************** -------